The Transformers: The Movie (1986) Commentary
Hello and welcome to the podcast! This episode is a special format: a full commentary track for The Transformers: The Movie. A classic of 1980’s action. Get your copy of the film ready to sync up with us! To begin, we dive into this iconic 1986 animated classic. It is a film that profoundly shaped our childhoods. However, it also inflicted severe emotional trauma that few 80s animated movies dared to explore. We analyze the sheer artistic ambition that went into creating this feature-length cinematic event.
Optimus Prime’s Death and Unicron’s Debut
We explore why The Transformers: The Movie has such a dark tone compared to the TV show. Furthermore, we meticulously break down the film’s most pivotal and painful moment: Optimus Prime’s death. That event shocked an entire generation of children and remains one of the most controversial moments in franchise history. In addition, we analyze the magnificent voice acting of Leonard Nimoy and Orson Welles.
They brought the terrifying new planet-eating villain, Unicron, to life, setting an impossibly high standard for subsequent threats. We discuss the transition of leadership to Hot Rod (later Rodimus Prime). Ultimately, we ask whether he was a worthy successor to Prime and if the film gave him a fair shake.
Nitpicks, Bayformers, and Nostalgia
Next, we move on to the film’s many plot holes and strange editing choices. For instance, why did they kill so many classic characters so quickly? This ruthless approach guaranteed the toy line would see a massive refresh, but at what narrative cost? We compare this 80s Animated Movie classic to the modern franchise. We can’t help but dive into the Bayformers films.
Specifically, we discuss the drastic shift in tone and design under Michael Bay and debate whether any of the live-action films captured the emotional core of the original. We admit The Transformers: The Movie isn’t perfect. Nevertheless, it remains a solid, dependable piece of nostalgia. It is an enjoyable watch with friends and a few drinks.
If you love giant robots, 80s animation, or just want to relieve some childhood grief, then join us for this definitive commentary on The Transformers: The Movie!
Full Transcript Outline (Quick Jumps)
00:00 Introduction to Transformers 1985 Commentary
01:51 Nostalgia and Impact of the Film
03:49 Storytelling and Themes in Transformers
12:02 Character Development and Relationships
18:35 The Darker Elements of the Film
25:41 The Legacy of Optimus Prime
32:23 Voice Acting and Character Portrayals
39:55 Plot Holes and Continuity Issues
45:54 Final Thoughts and Reflections
46:19 Exploring the Plot and Character Motivations
49:09 Character Dynamics and Relationships
51:11 The Role of Music and Soundtrack
54:16 Mythology and Lore of Transformers
56:04 Production Challenges and Character Development
01:01:12 Animation Quality and Visuals
01:06:12 Humor and Tone Shifts
01:11:02 Comparing Different Transformers Adaptations
01:18:07 The Matrix and Its Significance
01:20:23 Concluding Thoughts on the Film
FULL TRANSCRIPT
Cal & Kenny (00:00.078)
Hello and welcome back to OH!CAST the official podcast of OH!CON And with me tonight, as always, Kenny, what’s happening? Got a sore head. But other than that, I’m good. I think we’ve got just the ticket for you tonight. To cure a sore head. Or make it worse, I don’t know what will happen. This episode is a little bit different from our usual ones. We are recording a commentary to go along with a…
A very noteworthy film. A film of high art indeed this one.
wouldn’t you agree Kenny? Oh, just class, you know. Yeah it is. The film in question tonight is of course as you’ve seen because you probably read the episode description already Transformers 1985 a film that probably shaped our boyhoods in quite a massive way and probably traumatized a few more. Yes it did both it entertained us and
definitely traumatised with severe grief because of this film. Yeah. It’s still great. It’s still great. It is, it is. It’s a very enjoyable film. That much can be said. It’s not perfect by any stretch, but it’s very enjoyable.
Still building half the Transformers films, just be nice. Anyway, we’ve got plenty of time to go on about being Formers, I think, tonight. No. So before we start, just one quick word, and that’s ba-weep-gran-a-weep-noney-bun. All right, no. If you’ve got your copy of the film ready, lined up, put your timestamp to zero right now, hit the pause button, and you can press play now.
Cal & Kenny (01:51.106)
And you should be seeing the Dino di Laurenti’s logo, that infamous Italian producer.
If you ever want to go and listen to Brian Blessed’s audiobook and hear what he has to say about him, is hilarious, like everything else in that audiobook.
Yeah, I love the opening to this film. The whole, you know, going through the cosmos and Unicron, just this look. Like it starts Unicron so tiny and then just builds up how immense this thing is. And oh, it’s that score so good as well. Like Vince DiCola also did Rocky IV. can hear the similarities. There’s some cut and pasting, but it’s…
The unicorn theme especially, it’s just so good.
Cal & Kenny (02:46.198)
So, before we… When did you first see this film Kenny?
Oh late 80s, I’d say 89. 89 early early 90s I would say yeah yeah I would say I’d be the same I think I got it as a Christmas present on VHS as an 89 year old boy and I watched the hell out of this I saw I saw this before I saw the series
I was the same, I was going to say that. I had the toys, I had some of the comics. was aware of Optimus. I was aware it could be quite dark, but I wasn’t quite prepared for how dark this film was going. that said, this opening sequence, it’s such a good story. There’s so little dialogue, but it tells you everything about what the big threat of this film is.
Yeah. It’s like you never saw this in children’s cartoons back then. Yeah. I think it more back then there were more… …input kind of cartoons and kids stuff than they are now. Yeah. There’s that famous meme like where did you first learn about death? This film I think you really learnt about death. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (04:16.568)
But yeah, I said, only a few lines of dialogue in this opening and yet you understand everything you need to know about Unicron in about a minute. Really good. This is like one of the good examples of storytelling in this.
Cal & Kenny (04:33.484)
And then this drum beat kicked in as a kid, you were just jumping up and down, weren’t you? probably the best version of it. Yeah, it’s like they just docked out the pack at this point. As a kid, this was you sold on this film. You just knew this was going to be the best film for you as a young boy. Yeah.
Now, this is really like, this bit, these credits are totally nothing like the Superman credits. Just coincidental that. What Never heard of But I remember, and this is actually true, there was a voiceover at this point and a Star Wars crawl, wasn’t there, on the old versions of this film?
Or did you have that version of the film when you watched it? I honestly cannot remember. I so remember, there was a long, Star Wars and it was just dumping all this information.
Cal & Kenny (05:40.11)
about you know who Unicron was and what the state of the Cybertron was. Yeah it’s cut out of this version now this is the American that was only in the international versions outside of America. I probably did but I honestly cannot remember. Yeah I think you could find it if you look online. Oh the the far future of 2005 Kenny.
I remember it so well.
That’s what’s depressing. You kind of look at this and say, I wish it had turned out like this one almost. Like a giant robot’s going to work and it would only improve the 2005 we actually got. I think we definitely got the 2005 off wish, didn’t we? I don’t
Cal & Kenny (06:43.35)
Are you there Kenny? Yeah, I’m just… sorry, I thought you were coming. Are you just taking in all this great dialogue? Yeah, Ironhide can’t be… But remember this guy, Optimus Prime? Yes. They had a character that kind of had his name in Bae formers, but this is actually… but he wasn’t Optimus Prime, this is actually Optimus Prime. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (07:12.654)
Even right now he feels he’s the noble wise leader that he’s meant to be. He’s not a murdering psychopath.
Cal & Kenny (07:32.022)
And this is when I actually like Bumblebee. Yep. Well, actually, Bumblebee’s just a minor character to ya. Yeah. For some reason…
They decided to make home the centre of everything.
He was never a hugely popular one.
He was and he wasn’t. He was just one of those that you… He was always in the background. He found some stuff, but he… never really took the lead. As I recall, as I was growing up, there was much more love for Laserbeak and Bumblebee, probably. Lots of folk loved Laserbeak. Yeah, because of Soundwave. Yeah. Soundwave is…
one of the all time greats. Yep, not just because low code or… Yeah. And also his head is what they used for the Decepticon symbol as well. Yep. And again, like this video recording you’re watching here, how did Laserbeak get all these different angles? He was just perched in the window with a camera pointing out of his head. It’s Laserbeak. Yeah. Quick word.
Cal & Kenny (08:55.042)
Frank Welker has Megathrown amazing. Frank Welker, if you don’t know, has done everything at every time. Peter Cullen as well. Yep. But Frank Welker has been like… I think as a kid, it was this moment just about coming up.
Not this, not the one that guy got shot and fell. There’s one just coming up, which one? And another kick-ass song. There, when the guy with the smoke came out of his mouth. I just knew as a kid, whoa, this is extreme this one. I can’t even find the guy’s name, but I knew someone important at the time. And there goes Ratchet.
Yep, they’re just wiping out a toy line. Yeah, for some reason I can never remember the other ones. Like there’s always…
always the ones you always see and then you can never remember for some reason.
Cal & Kenny (10:16.492)
And no, sorry, this could deal with Megatron. Yeah. Michael Bay, this is Megatron that’s meant to do that, not Optimus Prime. Megatron shoots people point blank in the face who are begging for mercy. Not Optimus bloody Prime.
Cal & Kenny (10:34.156)
Yes, because I knew you were listening to us, Michael B.
Cal & Kenny (10:45.593)
Yeah, this is some great parenting here by Spike. Yeah, off on a distant planet, leading this child into the of a giant robot. Yeah, not with a wife or any other family, not leading with a giant robot to a war.
Cal & Kenny (11:05.11)
Yeah, this is obviously one of these producer decisions. Let’s have a little kid in there because other kids will then love him. I said, I love Optimus Prime. Who’s this sweet wharf? And once again, awesome song. Yes, Stan Bush, the legend. I think he lives off the royalties from this now. It’s just it made his career. Yeah.
I think he put out a new song based on Transformers a couple of years ago. think he’s done an updated version of The Touch. Yeah. So yeah, I think as a kid, when I first saw this, was just… The starter that’s just confused me with everything. Yeah. Like why is there a city on Earth? Are the Transformers meant to be hiding? Yeah. Yeah. And who are all these new Transformers?
Yep. I cannot be called a magnum. Sorry? If you’d been watching it here, you were like, here are all these new guys. Yep. It’s like for us, who started with the movie, were like, these were all originals. Yeah. You know? Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (12:31.232)
Again, why did they make a shuttle run to Earth? That wasn’t explained at the start.
Optimus Prime just says let’s make a shuttle run to earth for a reason, I don’t know why.
Cal & Kenny (12:47.096)
Think Dave.
I think I found out the stepcons were planning something.
Cal & Kenny (12:55.766)
It’s like, as a kid you never thought of this. You were just happy you just got into the robots fighting straight away. But then as an adult you’re like, there’s a lot of gaps in this story.
Cal & Kenny (13:08.418)
Again, this is one of the good parts is couple of hot rods relationship.
Cal & Kenny (13:16.334)
Because even though CUP’s the grouchy one towards you, you know that CUP believes in hot rod all the same.
I actually prefer Cup and Grimlock’s relationship. Alright. Because like, Cup’s… Cup’s always telling like old war stories and Grimlock’s just like the child just wants to know more. You know?
Cal & Kenny (13:48.62)
Yeah, and it’s like you watch this now so Autobots, what do the what does the rest of the humans on the planet think about Autobots City and all this? I would say world leaders, a lot of them aren’t too happy about it. I mean that’s at least one thing I’ll credit Bayformers for is they at least kind of address that, that what the world would think of these giants but again they just do it so monumentally stupidly.
Yeah. Oh, and look, it’s everyone’s favorite, Blur. I love Blur. Right. I see every other. They’ve all got clear things they do. What does Blur do? Apart from talk fast and move fast. Yes, that’s it. You know.
Another one my favourite springer. Alright, yeah.
RC yep this is will give the girls a robot and she’s gonna be pink yeah and that’s it but she stays out the way to let the boys do their stuff so and they never made an actual toy of her for years after this like decades and believe it or not this is a big step up from how Michael B treated RC yeah I hate it. I think she’s only in it for like seconds isn’t it? yeah
Dave Avery split Robin to three bikes.
Cal & Kenny (15:25.902)
You also notice, again we’re going to compare this a lot to BeFoRmArS, but it’s unavoidable at this point. But notice how all the Transformers actually, they’re not just jittering, bumbling, I don’t know, like they’re on cocaine or something talking a million miles an hour. Except Blur. Yep. And that’s the point. Blur was just meant to
That was meant to be his thing, but then in Bay Formers, they’re all just like bumbling around and they all speak at a million miles an hour. And also, how’s this for a novel idea? You can tell all the Decepticons apart.
Cal & Kenny (16:13.202)
I mean they do have the… Yeah they do have like all like the generic Decepticon, you know, fruit soldiers but… Yeah. For the most part, yeah.
But yeah, that’s what I’m saying. Obviously it’s better when all the robots look like twisted, lumps of metal that you can’t tell apart. That’s obviously way better than this. mean, to be honest, if Perceptor didn’t have the magnifying glass cannon thing, you would be mistaken for Blaster. Yeah.
Yeah. but Blaster, he’s cool. Everyone likes him. Blaster, he’s just another kind of version of Jazzus, isn’t he? No, he’s, he’s, he’s always counterpart. Yeah, but his personality is more like Jazzus, like the giant talker. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (17:17.614)
I just always loved these wee minions of Soundwave. Yeah. I don’t know who that bat one is in the background, I’ve forgotten. Uh, Ratbat? This is dumb, eh? This is Ratbat? I always just remember, it said Rumble, Ravage and Laserbeak. Yeah, well, Rumble and Frenzy always get their names mixed up. Okay. Yeah, for some reason Hasbro and like any
of the writers, they always interchange the names, you know. So, I love this bit. But yeah, they can never keep that same friendship. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (18:11.406)
But this whole battle, it’s really well done and it’s just a great way to kick off everything. And just like, as a kid, you were still thinking it’s a typical Transformers battle, everyone will be put back together again. Yeah, there’s R.C. the wounded to the dead.
Cal & Kenny (18:35.446)
I mean you were still as a kid thinking no they’ll survive they’ll be put back together until… You see Wheeljack dead. Yeah but it wasn’t until the big death that you were like this is where they’ve taken us.
Cal & Kenny (18:57.326)
It’s like if he can die, what’s hope for, know, what hope is there for the rest of them? Well, it turns out it didn’t matter because since then Optimus Prime dies like every two seconds and is weep for. Yeah, every every series seems he dies. Every film, B-formers, I don’t know how many times he died and came back or what.
I lost track of was going on there. Michael Bay, if you do hear, this is Devastator. Yes! This is how you do Devastator, not that thing you had with the wrecking balls. Is this comedy? Is this going to be turned out into us shouting, hey Michael Bay, pay attention to this? Yeah. Yes. Notice he does not have a giant pair of…
Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (20:02.907)
And notice there’s no… well, I’m not too sure if can say none, but there aren’t any very obvious racist stereotype transformers.
Do we even want to discuss that in my book? No. No, there’s no Autobot twins in this. Yep. No. see, this is the one thing I would like to see maybe a fan edit do. Is it’s great seeing the Dinobots swooping right now. honestly, just hold off the reveal of Optimus Prime till he kind of steps into the battle. I think that would have been much more impactful.
Yeah, yeah, the stopwatch just comes and the Dinobots come out. And then you just cut to Megatron must be stopped. Every line Peter Cullen does is gold. And the Dinobots here, totally useless.
Well. So he just knocks him over and that’s it. Yeah, they just cut to, this is Optimus Prime’s big end. Because as a kid, when you heard the music and this bit, you were pumped. You just go, yeah, he’s coming. He’s going to kick ass here. And he does.
Cal & Kenny (21:30.478)
It’s perfection, pure 80s cheese done to perfection. I love this, but…
And then… Oh, first swing. Just a bit.
Cal & Kenny (21:50.946)
And of course the disappearing trailer.
Cal & Kenny (21:57.976)
So that’s it. I watched a wee bit of the… Sometimes the Autobots can fly, sometimes they can’t. That’s very inconsistent, isn’t it? Yeah. course, these fighting words here.
Cal & Kenny (22:12.278)
It’s just, I would love to be in the studio just listening to Peter Cullen and Frank Welker exchanging these lines.
Cal & Kenny (22:26.163)
Hothra, your moment of Odysseus coming up. We all blamed you for what’s to come.
Cal & Kenny (22:47.31)
This is that what that’s a non-descript light type of sword. Yeah, you’d be allowed to call it a light saber.
Adios!
Cal & Kenny (23:03.778)
Something’s wrong? I don’t know. I don’t know.
Visual stabbing
This is like, again, this even got me as a kid.
See like Optimus Prime and Megaton right now, they’re still looking good, Nick.
Cal & Kenny (23:31.086)
Megatron there, there’s a few cracks on him but he still looks fine. And then just suddenly he looks completely bashed in for no reason.
yes, Hot Rod, what a great moment you have here.
Cal & Kenny (23:55.95)
I always con- How is it that blaster takes prime down? I see.
Now yeah, Optum’s prime damage, Megaton is still clean. Now wait for it.
There you go. Megatron suddenly completely damaged.
Cal & Kenny (24:20.578)
Yeah, and that’s what takes Megatron down. He falls. But he can fly! Where did he fly away?
And I suddenly, Optimus has totally done in.
Cal & Kenny (24:40.11)
Ah, but we loved it all the same. Starscream just kicks him when he’s down. Yeah, him when he’s down. Of course. Soundwave.
Cal & Kenny (25:01.09)
Now they all retreat. I don’t know why they retreat. Because they were winning up until Prime showed up. Prime’s now out of the fight and Megatron’s out. But they would still have the advantage of the Decepticons here.
Cal & Kenny (25:20.542)
I don’t know. Yeah. Because it’s a… This is a… You know, it’s gonna sound… I’m nitpicking this, but this is what we do on these things. How many Autobots actually are there for the rest of the film? There’s only like six or seven or something, isn’t there?
Cal & Kenny (25:41.742)
And here it comes everyone, get the tissues ready.
Cal & Kenny (25:56.258)
So is that what perceptors telescope things does? Yeah. Just tells of wounds are fake or not? For now, yeah. I mean, we don’t have rockets, so. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (26:20.024)
He really should be saying, thanks a lot, hot rod. That’s what his dying word should be. You screwed everything up.
Cal & Kenny (26:32.236)
And now you’ve Optimus Prime speaking to the Temu version of Optimus Prime, Ultra Magnus.
Cal & Kenny (26:42.592)
I’ve never taken to Ultra Magnus at all. Well, then,
Cal & Kenny (26:52.266)
Other magazines really just open with prime but with armor.
Cal & Kenny (26:59.33)
So there’s this production story. that’s fair. And instead of this, what happened was the essence of Optimus Prime was meant to go to what became Ultra Magnus and it was meant to be like the form of some kind of white angel. And you can kind of sort of see that in the design of Ultra Magnus, the white bits. Yeah. It kind of kept that.
Cal & Kenny (27:32.788)
All the animation in this bit is… If I remember it, is…
Yeah. Do all Autobots have a chest cavity for the Matrix then? Just in case? Or is it just certain ones?
think they all do.
Cal & Kenny (27:58.958)
Here it comes and this is as kids were like, the Autobots might not win this one And then turns completely great Even though later on ultra Magnus gets totally obliterated, but he he survives. He’s okay. Yeah Now at that point you think they were gone, maybe we should get the junkbots back
to Optimus Prime and he could revive, he could get us back.
Cal & Kenny (28:35.49)
He… Technically did. Yeah, he turned both. Didn’t work.
Cal & Kenny (28:51.342)
Starscream was also one of my favorites. The pettiness between him and Megatron was just always so good.
Cal & Kenny (29:07.67)
I never think Spice Soundwave goes along with this.
You think you would be defending Megatron? Yeah, you’re just standing there while…
Cal & Kenny (29:23.864)
Because Soundwave never had ambitions of leadership, ever.
But yes, sadly, next year I’m going to be leader now.
Cal & Kenny (29:35.99)
It’s almost like they did this scene kind of in a sequence, they should have had the fight first.
Cal & Kenny (29:44.802)
Now this is a bit of a continuity error like… Yes. Suddenly Devastated can fit in the back of Astro Train. I thought he was meant… But again, they do change size often the Transformers.
Cal & Kenny (30:02.958)
So yeah, it’s fine.
Cal & Kenny (30:09.715)
There’s no point really questioning these things, that’s what’s cool. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (30:22.338)
Yeah, it is. It’s like, why does Soundwave suddenly have leadership ambitions out of nowhere? And then by the time they get to Cyberthon, he’s given up on them. Yeah. And of course, the voice of Unicron, Horace and Wells himself.
Cal & Kenny (30:43.022)
Again, I’ve read this online. He was, was he not like almost close to dying at this point or so? He died not either just before or just after this film released. Yeah, I think it might have been just before. Honestly, don’t know about. do, yeah, this is his last. His last room. But I don’t know if he died during production or after it or.
But yeah, what a… The man who made Citizen Kane goes out doing the Transformers song. It’s memorable for him. We remember. But as I recall, he was really ill when he did this. And I think they manipulated his voice in post a lot to get it, but it sounds amazing.
Like when you’ve got this on a nice sound bar or sound system that voice properly rumbles. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (31:51.224)
Thank
Cal & Kenny (31:59.522)
I love that he’s not got that many lines of dialogue, Unicron, just enough. It’s just, he doesn’t need to talk. It’s just the presence, you know. The presence of that theme tune just do the job so well. You don’t need anything else.
Cal & Kenny (32:23.18)
Yeah, this is another favorite animation sequence of mine coming up, this whole transformation. It’s it’s beautifully done,
Cal & Kenny (32:42.862)
So what do you make of the voice of Galvatron?
Cal & Kenny (32:55.467)
I will never
Well, yeah, I hadn’t seen, again, I hadn’t seen Star Trek before I saw this. Yeah. So like, didn’t know how much people loved Leonard Nimoy, you know, Nimoy. So I never, I never thought much of it. I liked the voice. Yeah. Yeah. I did, but I still missed the, the Megatron voice is so distinct. Yeah.
It’s like not the typical villain voice, that kind of gravelly, almost camp-time kind of voice he gave him. Yeah, it’s the classic mustache-torting villain. Yeah, it’s just he sprinkles in enough campness now and again, Frank Welko.
Cal & Kenny (33:52.27)
Yeah, and uh, it’s I will say it’s a shame they can get him, you know for the series Yeah Yeah Well, I think even that Leonard Nimoy was involved in like the Star Trek films at the time. Yeah He would not have come cheap at all. I know but having having uh, doing the voice of Galadron throughout the rest of the series would have been stupid
Same with John Nelson.
Yeah, whatever happened to him? Like he did this, Breakfast Club, it’s Elmo’s Fire and then he just vanished into thin air I I think he does production and writing now, does he? I honestly can’t tell you.
Cal & Kenny (34:49.55)
I love that Starscream would be so arrogant to want a crowning service. Yep, and a cape.
Cal & Kenny (35:04.536)
Hey.
I never choose how Starscream could recognise Galvatron as Megatron. I don’t know just because he’s got a cannon in his arm. But why would he jump to the conclusion that’s Megatron? He would think treating Megatron’s dead by now. But the same, that death scene of Starscream just there, that’s another like great animation. The animation quality varies at times in this film.
Cal & Kenny (35:42.124)
and suddenly just sound waves completely loyal to Galvatron.
Cal & Kenny (35:59.384)
Does Eucron certainly attract Cybertron’s moons?
It doesn’t advance his plans very far, it? No, it don’t.
Like, I get why he’s destroying his plans, you know, you know, for fuel. other than that, I think it’s only goal is literally the metrics.
Cal & Kenny (36:33.858)
I mean, I’m just thinking like jazz is doing this very distressing like SOS. I’m just saying, just keep talking jazz. Just keep talking as you die horribly because your voice is so cool.
Cal & Kenny (36:54.19)
It’s like just having James Brown talking all the time. You can talk about anything, you’d just be entertained.
Cal & Kenny (37:12.16)
Okay, so why are sitting talking to them if it’s heading your way?
Like you literally just wasted, you should have just got straight on the…
Spike said something that should not be in the film. Yes. I did not know this until like a few years ago. Yeah. And again, this is a dependent which cut of the film you had. If you had the, now if I’m right, if you have the cut of the film with the Star Wars crawl, it’s got the rude word. No, it doesn’t have the rude word, so yeah, the one I saw last was the one with the crawl. Okay.
So that’s the one, yeah, that’s the root word.
Cal & Kenny (38:01.966)
Despite just living that suit all the time he’s out with him. There we go. Yeah. That is… Like the exosuit despite… That must get unpleasant after a while. No, he does take it off sometimes.
Like even when he’s on Cybertron he can take it off. There is a breathable atmosphere for some reason. Alright, I was… Yeah. Because in the… In the headmaster three-parter… In the final part… He does walk up… does… When they… Ugh, I’m getting my brain mixed up. When they head to Cybertron for the finale… He is out of his headmaster suit.
Alright. I was just going to say that is one great way Unicron came up with to control Galvatron. I’ll give him a migraine and he’ll do what I want. I’ve had migraines and said if you had that power over someone they will do whatever you want with their quest. yeah.
Cal & Kenny (39:13.772)
Yeah, we’re going to do everything we can for Spike. Very little they do.
Cal & Kenny (39:27.672)
So at no time after this war they thought, we best get this little kid off to safety. We’ll just keep him with us.
Cal & Kenny (39:38.232)
Be a child in these situations, you know?
Cal & Kenny (39:55.992)
Yeah, Ultra Magnus, just, he is just such, this is bargain bin, more Optimus Prime you have now. I’ve always liked Ultra Magnus.
And then, well, I’ll say he’s a better leader than Rodimus became.
Blur doing blur things again. He’s proving so useful right now. Look, he’s just standing there doing absolutely nothing. Glimlock’s taking them out for him.
Cal & Kenny (40:41.048)
Yes, do something, Blar. Listen to it.
Cal & Kenny (40:49.55)
It’s like, like, Octomagnes literally gave you one job and he just fired you from it on the spot. It’s like, literally, that was all that I’m saying. You had one job.
Cal & Kenny (41:11.31)
Fort Rod didn’t even have to try and get the last horn. They already just followed it. They just followed it once Grimlock went along.
Again, the creation of the Dinobots was just like… That is just one of the dumbest things you guys have ever done. But at the same time, one of the greatest. They are awesome. Yeah. I do love Grimlock. You can’t help it. I loved him so much when I had my beard to drag on, I named him Grimlock. Because he was a big lovable goofy, dopey thing as well. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (41:48.384)
Again, this is the old movie thing, they’re shooting at everything but the ship that they’re all trying to get onto. Like they could easily, why just take out the ship? They are now, but…
Cal & Kenny (42:28.568)
That was close, they’re still outside though.
Cal & Kenny (42:39.874)
Suddenly they’re somehow in the clear. the septums just give up there or what?
Who? How did you lose them? I don’t get it.
Plus what happened to all the other Autobots over there? That’s what I said, like the rest of the storm there’s the Dinobots and like the six others or something. Yeah. Because the destruction of the moon bases should have been a bigger deal for the Autobots because that was their base so I’m guessing all the Autobots were on them.
Cal & Kenny (43:21.979)
another totally non-descript light stabbing device. Yeah. It’s like they have them lying around everywhere. yeah.
Cal & Kenny (43:39.704)
Bye!
Cal & Kenny (43:44.226)
Where’d he come from? Who? The… The… The… The robot. The training robot? Yeah. And he’s never seen again? Yeah. He’s just there once, He’s not in any scene ever again.
Cal & Kenny (44:08.526)
What did that do? Nothing. Just absolutely nothing.
Cal & Kenny (44:30.07)
And you’ve got to admit Kenny, when you were a kid, did you play Transformers with your mates? Yeah. And so did you do the whole waving your arm, kind of do the transformer noise to say I’m transforming? Yeah. Yeah, we all did. We were also like, wha- pshh! Something like that. Good thing you can’t see me on webcam right now.
Cal & Kenny (44:56.91)
So this is like, I feel like I’ve seen cut out after this. So their ship just went off into space. You just saw it there. It did not crash into a planet. And I always thought there must be a scene or something missing.
Cal & Kenny (45:17.603)
Helter Magnus, your genius plan here.
Cal & Kenny (45:29.474)
And again, I’m not understand how.
They’ve got scanners these ships I’m guessing? They do, I think they have to. Yeah, how did the ship miss the cockpit? So there you go.
They should have been able to still see the rest of the shuttle flying away right now.
I’m giving you another migraine. There is a great power though, I have to say.
Cal & Kenny (46:19.639)
Is the plan at this point?
Cal & Kenny (46:25.41)
I’m trying to figure out what are they planning to do here at this point? I don’t know. They don’t say we’re heading to Cybertron or… just say, yeah, might as well fly around, I think. mean, they got the message from just…
Yeah, and they had to escape out of Old City. But then it’s like, so what are they doing after that then?
Cal & Kenny (46:59.729)
and another pick-up song, this one.
Cal & Kenny (47:07.106)
So again, yeah, last we saw their ship, they were going out into open space and now they’re underwatered up. I think there’s a scene missing here. Yeah, there has to be scene where they crash. Yeah, well, you see them like they’re taken down or something like that. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (47:37.814)
Another thing I’ve understood, how are they so waterproof? Yef, well…
Cal & Kenny (47:49.248)
And I do love that in this universe, like nearly every planet is a robotic life. There should like very few organic planets. Like Earth’s the only one they come across.
There’s Nebulon, that’s in the 3-part finale as well. But other than that… Oh! Oh, there’s the episode Carnage in C minor. With those guys… That’s a whole nother…
Cal & Kenny (48:29.966)
But this soundtrack is so good like all of its good. It’s like really If you ever I got this No, I never bought the CD. This is gonna date this particular instance of my life. I got the soundtrack on mini disc How 90s is that I thought you were gonna say laser to
I wouldn’t actually… the laser disc collector’s market is pretty… bloody hell like laser discs go for big money now.
Cal & Kenny (49:09.396)
again they’re going down for repairs but they crash land and they all like almost die so what was the point of this like what they’ve made the shuttle worse they just don’t seem to have any clue what they’re doing
Cal & Kenny (49:28.526)
I’m like, Ultraman just has a matrix, which means he should be, you know, he has, should have, you know, access to all the wisdom of the primes. You yet he’s nothing, he’s doing nothing that makes sense. know, another one.
Cal & Kenny (49:58.156)
He did this little bit, like him jumping around like that and the music is so, ugh. I never liked Daniel. Yep. But was like, literally he just said, it’s rough out there, kid. And he said, sense. You’re a wee kid, shouldn’t be going out into.
Yep. There’s chairs on the ship. Sit in one. Yep. And stay there. Yep.
We’ll stick him in an exosuit that he doesn’t know to use and walk out to this dangerous planet.
Like, see like when they reunite with Daniel, with the Spike later? He should be raging at them! You dragged my kid out here, what? Technically it’s his fault for leaving him with them. Yeah, but you think he would still be? Wait, I left him there on earth with you guys, you… And this is the most bizarre casting I’ve ever… Eric Idle. Why Eric Idle, I don’t know. It’s the script that gave him as well.
Yeah, it’s
Cal & Kenny (51:11.436)
The junk… was it the junkacons they’re called? can’t remember. The junkions. The junkions, yeah.
I mean, Rectar transforms into probably one of my favorite vehicles in the series. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (51:41.71)
I just like these wee bits where look up, like showing them some respect.
Cal & Kenny (51:51.534)
Yeah, this is the one infamous bit of dialogue coming up.
Cal & Kenny (52:04.332)
No, I finally recall.
These guys are explained more in the series, aren’t they? Yeah. The Sharktacons and the Quintessons and all of them. Yeah, the…
Cal & Kenny (52:19.094)
Yep.
Cal & Kenny (52:28.16)
Yeah, I still cringe at the whole universal greeting. If you’re have that, it be something that’s sound important, not just kind of baby noises.
It just makes the universe, you know, the… the population of universe sounds… I would say stupid for that pre-teen. You know. Oh, and here’s another one of everyone’s favourites, Wheelie.
You’re not going to say you love Weeley as well, come on. I prefer more Blur. I’ll just say that. that’s a difficult one to consider. Weeley or Blur, which one’s more annoying? Weeley actually does do things to help them in the film. He actually said, I can’t recall anything Blur does in this to help anyone.
Like he’s just there to talk. This is always creep me out, this whole… The quintessence and like the judge, I don’t know what his name was, can’t remember.
Cal & Kenny (53:45.774)
Like that bit there when the heads are just spinning around laughing, was, ugh.
Cal & Kenny (53:57.102)
You realise the shartacons
Cal & Kenny (54:16.672)
I it’s later revealed, did Unicron play a part in the creation of the Transformers?
brother?
Yeah I think it is. Primus is essentially gods and Unicorn’s basically Satan isn’t it? Yeah so it’s like two sides of the same coin type thing. You know it’s like the the monitor and the anti-monitor from DC. Yeah I think and they had a fight at the start of the universe or something there was
It’s a long time since I’ve read It’s just such a creepy design that this, don’t know what his name is, but like with the tentacles and the kind of robot, it’s just like, Ooh, it’s just a, it’s just a disquieting kind of design to have. this thing. Yeah. Like you can literally just imagine what they’re doing to him and he’s still alive. Again, a very huge tone shift.
if you watch the cartoon, the TV series first.
Cal & Kenny (55:36.098)
How did they all get separated?
Cal & Kenny (55:47.926)
It’s just one thing to eat. They cut scenes for time for a reason, you know. Yeah. But it’s when they cut scenes that would make sense.
Cal & Kenny (56:05.87)
Because I think the production of this film was really rushed. It really rushed it through. because with the copyright… It was essentially they were told we have to have a new toy line and this was the only way they could come up with doing it. They’ll do that in the film. How do you kill, how do you basically take out a load of characters?
Cal & Kenny (56:32.846)
It’s like, let’s just do a movie, introduce new characters, new toys, and just kill the ones we’re discontinuing. Yeah, it’s Because there was an interview, like if you watch the DVD features, where the director said like they just did not anticipate anyone would get upset over Optimus Prime. Because they said it was literally just us putting a new toy line out. We didn’t realise folk were…
emotionally invested in it.
think if you’re going to put out a new toy line for Transformers, why kill the leader of the Autobots? think they would let… think, oh well there’s all these side characters that don’t sell so well. You think they would have like, yeah, an idea what toys were selling well and not what kids wanted.
Cal & Kenny (57:30.286)
mean, that would be like, see Pokemon. Oh, we’re going to have a, when they wanted to introduce some brand new Pokemon, we’re getting rid of Pikachu. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (57:45.262)
think this is when Michael B got the idea for the voice of Bumblebee. Because you can barely understand him at times. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (57:58.956)
Like I the script they gave Eric Idle was just… complete gibberish. Yeah. Think about it.
Cal & Kenny (58:10.348)
And again, look at the great job the Autobots are protecting Daniel here. I’m going to just transform and go away. And there goes Blur. Blur? Yeah, you can transform. You’re getting shot at. You’ll figure it out. Even though he could have just jumped inside a Blur there, couldn’t he? Basically, leave him at the mercy of the Decepticons.
Cal & Kenny (58:38.274)
Yeah, and that’s him having a transforming suit wouldn’t like break his bones or anything, it? I have, which I think it’s like Super God Master Force. Yeah.
where they have the humans basically transforming into like the yeah it was like it was like headmasters jeez and again bea formers took it one step further when that it’s in revenge of the fallen
when a Decepticon can suddenly become a hot supermodel?
Yeah, that shook you up Kenny. Like, mentioning any scenes from those films just like, no. You go, I think you go into denial, do you? Like, right, like, well, sorry, just watch here. Ultra Magnus exploded into pieces there. He should be, Optimus Prime was intact. Yeah.
If either one of them was going to make a recovery in this world, it should have been up prime.
Cal & Kenny (01:00:04.063)
What category of Frank Welker voice on the…
Cal & Kenny (01:00:11.532)
think so.
Cal & Kenny (01:00:20.494)
Sounds like a, sounds a wee bit like Megatron just deeper. Yeah, I think it’s got to be a Frank Welker voice.
Cal & Kenny (01:00:34.211)
Awesome. What does this kick-ass sound like? Now that’s the one fact I didn’t mention earlier. You know the touch? was never written for this film.
I didn’t know that. Do you know what film was written for? It’s another 80s classic but I
Cal & Kenny (01:00:55.22)
It is classic action film.
Cal & Kenny (01:01:00.142)
okay that’s what’s army one? Rumble? nope nope
Cal & Kenny (01:01:12.75)
None of his big franchises, but there’s a notable one he did in the 80s. Stopper Mammoth. What was it? you were going to say Rhinestone, maybe Rhinestone or something. No, Cobra. Oh, Cobra. What about Cobra? When you listen to the soundtrack for that, could say, yeah, I could see the touch fitting in this.
Cal & Kenny (01:01:47.566)
Why did I think… …so for my mom or feet? I thought you were kidding me there, Tweek. Honestly.
I have watched that film once and I could no desire to ever watch it again. Whereas this film I could pop on anytime, easily.
What a great entrance to the Dino-Waltz here.
Cal & Kenny (01:02:20.6)
But it does have to be said, like the creation of the Dinobots was not the… the one smart. Although they’re In the episode it’s like, that was a dumb idea to create these uncontrollable monsters. Yeah. Give them tiny brains. Yeah, and the fact that Megatron and, you know, could just manipulate them so easily. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (01:02:51.982)
So I think in the when you get the quintessence They were they were actually the ones that created the transformers, weren’t they?
And the Decepticons were like meant to be the soldiers and the Autobots were the workers, weren’t they?
think originally
they were and then when they introduced Primus they reckoned it so that the Quintessons were just like they enslaved them. Yeah it’s like I’ve said to you kind of off you know there’s like the the canon and the integrity of this franchise is questionable at best. Yeah it’s they’ve added so much to it.
contradicted themselves, rock-wrecked on themselves.
Cal & Kenny (01:03:51.694)
Because in another one, Unicron is Earth, Primus is Cybertron. Yeah, Which one?
Ugh.
Cal & Kenny (01:04:09.762)
It’s so hard hearing the Jonkian talk without you just, know, your hand on your head, your face, it’s just like… Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (01:04:29.524)
It’s something that’s gotta be said, like, that’s a good, just a question that came into my head there. Out of all the things from the 80s, all these cartoons that we watched and loved, this one has lasted. Yeah. It’s like been rebooted, new iterations. It’s like, all, Transformers is just always there constantly. Yeah, they’ve, yeah they tried it with Thundercats.
They’ve done a couple of times with C-man, G.I. Joe. But there’s nothing come close to this. Like every year, like you can pretty much go now, look on the internet and there will be like a new series of Transformers being made. Or a film. Or a film. There’ll be some kind of, or books or comics. It’s always there. Yeah. Like you had G1 and then in the 90s
most nike thing ever beast wars. Armada, Prime, it just keeps going and just like and it’s just such I think it’s just the concept is so simple and it’s so easy to update the look of it because you know the bots have to update their looks. Yeah and you can also still use the you know some of the G1 designs and you know just play around with it.
Yeah. I… I think… the scene I hate most in this film is… just about to come up.
Cal & Kenny (01:06:13.155)
yes. I actually hate that. It’s so stupid.
It’s.
It’s like, see the sharktacons switching sides. That makes sense. Yeah. Because you kind get the feel of the sharktacons are well treated by the quintessons. Yeah. But why do the junkacons just switch sides instantly?
Yeah, I know what you mean. it’s like right in the middle of all this chaos, they have a party. look at, yes, he’s, yeah, Hawke runs into a wall so that, come on. See, right, yeah. I’d say the song goes perfectly with the scene because it is stupid, it is terrible, it is pointless.
Cal & Kenny (01:07:14.286)
I don’t know what he just said, I heard drunk yont.
Cal & Kenny (01:07:27.79)
They still chanted it!
Cal & Kenny (01:07:32.578)
He was disintegrated, he wasn’t just in a few pieces. Yeah. Like, he was totally obliterated by them. he’s… you know, just shining them up, he’s young.
Yeah, he’s brand new! literally just put his arms and legs back on. He got shot in the chest and blown up! And not one of them said, send a couple of them back to earth. And they can re-resurrect some of our mates and we can get some help together.
Cal & Kenny (01:08:18.028)
Yep. So these guys know who and what Unicron is and I’m guessing, but they just jump on this plan to destroy Unicron because six people turned up on their plan and said they’re going to. Well, yeah, wouldn’t you? Yep.
Cal & Kenny (01:08:40.28)
And suddenly, how many Junkacons are there? Quite a lot. Like you see them running past right now. The classic old 80s recycled and recycling that animation. So why did they need to get the other ship when you have a perfectly good ship right there? I have no idea. Which looks big enough to hold all of them. Yep. Or they could have put some of the Junkacons on with the Autobots.
Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (01:09:15.008)
Again, we do love this. I know we’re picking it up. It’s just when it’s that thing when you get older, you start to. But all you realize. Yeah. But you still love it. Yeah. I mean, I love it a bit. And this is I guess it’s the best animation sequence. Yeah. You can tell they really put a lot of effort into this. Like the whole unit, it’s
It’s just a transforming sequence, but the music and everything and you really get the sense of scope here.
Cal & Kenny (01:09:56.718)
Plus this is where the definite hints of a unicorn being like the devil is definitely on display with the design.
Cal & Kenny (01:10:08.046)
Like he’s got the horns, he’s got the kind of wings and all that. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (01:10:16.142)
The hi-tests look so cool.
Yeah. Got that, but he has like the big mustache as well. He’s got a mustache, yeah. I dread to think, had Michael B continued with his version of Unicom’s bot form, it would look like.
the whole unicorn being an earth-bustest. Yeah, like I say, it is part of the continuity, but it’s just the way they did it in that film.
Because the way it’s introduced that film, just say it’s unicorn and it doesn’t mean anything to anyone at that point.
Cal & Kenny (01:11:02.264)
So that’s the other thing, Kenny. Why does this film work and the B-formers films don’t?
when literally this is just toy commercials, but how… I think…
Cal & Kenny (01:11:22.86)
I just say it’s… They play so… You know… Play around with the lore in the Middle East. You know, they…
They have characters acting like completely different than how they originally acted, you know. And sometimes it works. Yeah. And sometimes it doesn’t. It’s just, essentially, this is what they really should take it like they should have watched this film and realized there’s hardly any humans in this film and people still love it.
You don’t have to have human characters to make it relatable.
Like as kids, we wanted to see these robots fighting and having cool adventures. Like Spike was never a huge part of anything. He was more the guy. was there. You know, he was more just we need to know something about Earth. Spike’s here to tell us this fact about Earth. That’s the thing. In the New Orleans series, was Spike, his father. You know.
And they never made them the focus. Yeah. Like I said, they were the Transformers guides, you know, and like they actually helped like Spike and his father, you know, repaired, you know, the Transformers when they were damaged quite a lot of times, they helped a lot, but they didn’t take away the focus. And that’s where the I think the
Cal & Kenny (01:13:11.598)
The biggest issue with the Bayvers is they put too much focus on Sam. at the expense of, well, that’s one of the big, but it is just Michael B’s sensibilities at times.
Cal & Kenny (01:13:34.094)
As much as we rag on the films, the bavers…
fight scenes are amazing you know. Poets. Even now, even now the first one, the fight scenes still hold up really well. Yeah but then they just took it to extremes. Yeah. And that’s the problem I think they took everything to such extremes. And like look at this you have Unicron standing on Cybertron. Yeah. You know.
while the Decepticons and the Oddworlds are all fighting them. Yep. And you literally have Grimlock kicking him in the backside right now.
It’s kind of played for laughs, but it’s also like it’s serious and the Dinowats are trying to do that bit. Yeah.
Cal & Kenny (01:14:39.798)
It’s like, you know, this works where it’s like in the Bay version Destructicon having a pair of balls. Yeah. It’s just walking. I’m being taken out by a railgun. Which I don’t know the technical specs of a railgun but I know it’s like, it is super powerful. Yeah.
It’s powerful not to take out Devastator.
Cal & Kenny (01:15:17.678)
Whereas, you know, Autobot and Decepticon weapons are far more powerful than human weapons. And they can’t even do that. Yeah. So it’s…
Cal & Kenny (01:15:35.854)
This was, the noises of these robots was terrifying as a kid. And then seeing them literally melting to death right now. You gotta think James Cameron was watching this when he was coming up with ideas for T2.
Cal & Kenny (01:15:57.806)
Hey.
Cal & Kenny (01:16:04.91)
They just keep saying use your exosuit. How does Daniel have the slightest clue to do anything with it? Just pressing buttons. Yeah, just randomly press buttons and it’ll work.
Cal & Kenny (01:16:19.114)
I think this is continuity as well.
Cal & Kenny (01:16:25.614)
There was three Autobots behind Spike there but there was a hell of a lot more on that grapple line that were all dropping off. Yeah. But I think it cost too much to animate them all so. As I recall there’s some Autobots that die in this film and then you see them in the backgrounds later on. Uh, Ron is one of them.
Like he’s the one who first died and we see him in a future episode.
Mainly because the company they used to animate that one. Yeah, just for you man.
Now as I cured this bit here I thought they were going to get those non-descript life stabbing weapons we were talking about earlier out because they were featured and you saw Hot Rod training with one so I as I cured it genuinely thought that’s what’s gonna happen here yeah you’d think since he was training with it that would be one of his weapons and also because you saw Prime using it you thought they’re kind of making a comparison here well no you saw Prime getting hit by one so
Maybe thought, well, that’s hot what he’s turning up. So that doesn’t happen to him sort of thing.
Cal & Kenny (01:17:48.686)
And now, for the power of-
Not exactly the matrix, but glitter ball and 80s hair metal. Unbeatable combination.
Cal & Kenny (01:18:07.683)
yes, what a name for our new hero. Rodimus Prime.
Cal & Kenny (01:18:18.894)
So Galvatron can atomize Starscream with his gun. But he can’t do it to Rodimus. Can’t do a thing to Rodimus. Well, I think it was the Matrix that was protecting him. It was like Power Rangers, you know when they morph, they can’t be attacked. That was pretty much it.
Well, I’ll give them credit for this. They didn’t make the matrix. kind of… It can do anything the plot needs it to.
It’s quite clear, like, it releases this power or energy that destroys Unicron.
Cal & Kenny (01:19:05.742)
I know, again hate to go to the Babers, but the All Spark, whatever that was, the point of that was, never really.
Cal & Kenny (01:19:17.71)
mean, the idea of the oscar is, you know, fine. Yeah.
But again, it’s the execution of it. it’s just… And again, I think it’s just… It was just the quintessential… This franchise is just transforming robots fighting each other and that’s what you pay for and want to see. And it’s difficult thing to do. Yeah, you don’t need this, you know… Big massive plot point to, you know… Yeah. You just need good robots, bad robots, guns.
this alt mode of hot rod now is so goofy. Yeah. He’s turning into like a giant supercar. looks like an RV. Crossed with a supercar. I didn’t try to count how many Autobots there are. So one, two, three, four. About seven there. Yeah, about seven.
Plus all the others that were in there. So how did they re-take Cybertron at the end? That did. That was as a kid. Cybertron’s Decepticon occupied. Yeah. But in just about the next scene, the Autobots are on it and there’s no sign of any Decepticons anywhere. They just re-take Cybertron suddenly. Yeah. Like right here.
Cal & Kenny (01:20:52.534)
It’s the end of the war suddenly, just us. Yeah, for an hour.
Cal & Kenny (01:21:03.598)
And how did the Dinobots get back? They were floating around. Like there’s nowhere on Cybertron now. Yeah, there’s maybe 10? 10 Autobots there? but look at it. It’s like a vast Blade Runner type city there. And this is like the last scene of the film, but if you remember the original cut, there was a voice over here. And it was the trailer guy saying, Optimus Prime will return.
And again, that was just because of the negative feedback I added that in for the international release. Which of course led to one of the most hilarious records ever in G.I. Yeah. Yeah, the quote is on… The The quote is on George. It’s just called George. Yeah.
But I was just like, remember that in GI Joe? No, he’s really, he’s alive. It didn’t really go through his heart or something like that. It’s so bad.
Cal & Kenny (01:22:09.454)
yeah, okay. Well what can we say? I know we’ve probably ragged on this one, I don’t know what to say.
Cal & Kenny (01:22:20.278)
Not good f- not a classically good film, but it’s just fun. That’s the main thing you can say. Just fun. Yeah, mean… Yes, there are plotholes. know… Yeah. Strange decisions, you know…
These are so good at the same time. It’s just fun. That’s it. Yeah. There’s some embarrassing bits, there’s some cringe bits, some bits that make you… Overall it’s fun. It’s got Transformers doing Transformers stuff and it’s got that amazing soundtrack that you literally do right round.
Cal & Kenny (01:23:07.694)
Like how have they never used this version of the theme tune again? Because it’s by a lion. Lion? The one other film they were involved in was a Friday the 13th film I think. Or was it a Freddy film?
Cal & Kenny (01:23:28.11)
He did a song for one of those franchises and that’s pretty much all he ever did. If it was uh it was Nightmare and Oxy it was probably Dream Warriors. I wouldn’t be surprised. That was Dokkan.
Cal & Kenny (01:23:47.914)
that’s gonna bug me now. But I know it’s, think, I’m almost certain it was a Friday the 13th film. And then that’s it. They just, and there’s, if you go to their webpage, if you go to their Wikipedia, there’s no information about who they were or anything. But if you’re gonna do that, you know, you’ve done, at least you’ve done something memorable. Like you record a kick-ass version of the Transformers theme.
It was Friday the 13th, final chapter. Final chapter, which is not the final chapter and it wasn’t even the final Friday the 13th film to have final in the title. we’re on about Friday the 13th now. Yeah, this film, it holds up pretty well. That’s what the animation has to say. Yeah, but the most part, Yeah, the only things I dated are maybe
Soundwave and Percepta. They’re kind of of their time. And also saying that this is the future of 2005 was not the smartest idea. It was all over the place back then. Every sci-fi film it was set in 2000. It just sounded so cool the year 2000. Or like a lot of them like 20 xx you know.
I mean that was the one thing Dune did right? They just said it so far in the future no one’s gonna be around to even question it at that point. Yeah and Star Wars was done in galaxy far far away long time ago. Yeah this is I I return to this film very often. a lot. It’s one I would love to see. I’ve never seen in the cinema yet. I would dearly love to see it in a big screen.
And with that, like while the credits are ruling here, Transcorpish One, what are you recording?
Cal & Kenny (01:25:55.502)
I’ve heard a ton of good stuff.
Cal & Kenny (01:26:03.778)
The main thing I’m hearing is Transformers should just stay animated. It works on animated, it’s best in animated form.
I was excited the second I saw there’s no human character. I’m sold. I want to see this I would say yes. It’s like then you get Bumblebee
I’m sorry. It will be just that odd one out in the live action. Actually good one. They can they can do good live action. They just don’t. Yeah, and they can do G1 in live action as well. That film showed it can be done. Regardless of what Michael Bay or any of them think, you can make the G1 models work in live action. I mean. Yeah, I would say keep it.
keep it animated. you, the animation like they did with Transformers 1, do it in the style of the War for Cybertron games for the Cybertron? Oh yeah, they would go just well. Keep it like that. Change up the designs a wee bit. That’s always gonna be what’s gonna happen but…
As long as you don’t stray too far from the original, tweak it so you know exactly who you’re looking at. That’s what I like about the designs for Optimus and Megatron in Transformers 1. You can look at Megatron, can look at Optimus and be like, it’s not their names. It’s not the names we’re used to, but you can tell
Cal & Kenny (01:28:00.76)
That’s my film. Same with Bumblebee and Alita 1. I’m definitely looking forward to Transformers 1. It’s been a long time since I’ve been excited about a Transformers movie. Yep. wasn’t even trying. I was so dubious about the Bumblebee film and that was such a pleasant surprise when we got right into it. But I was still, even then, just…
I am not going to get excited. I’m very rarely excited for most franchise entries these days. So, like we’re all burned out by a lot of them. The opening scene where you have the G1 versions. Yeah, it was so good that. And you’re like, okay, let’s hope. You almost felt they put that in there just to reassure everyone. Don’t worry, we’ve got it. We’re listening to you in this one. And even in the Rise of the Beasts,
Yeah. The other designs were good. Yeah. Anyway, the movie wasn’t all that good though. Yeah, with that to be said. But I think on that note, we should draw this to an end. It’s been good. So final thoughts on Transformers 85 or 86? I’m not too sure now. 86. Is it 86? Yes. Even then, like, it’s the most 80s film ever. It was right in the middle of the 80s.
That’s how the 80s got it. It wasn’t early or late, it was just perfectly middle of the 80s. If we’re going by ratings, know, till all are won, roll out, you know. All the good stuff, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just you should, if you’ve not watched this yet, you should do. It’s good fun. It’s also
think a film you can just sit with your mates, have a few drinks and chill out to. You can’t go wrong with this film. That’s a good thing. Yeah, you can. It’s like, it’s just that solid, dependable. I just want to watch some. I just want to watch Transformers. And it’s there. with that, thank you, everyone, for listening. Hope you enjoyed this. And also, if you if there is a film you want us to do a commentary on, just let us know.
Cal & Kenny (01:30:26.338)
We will try our best to do it within reason. I know what the internet can be like and what people can suggest. We’ve been on the internet, so. Yeah. So yeah, just go easy on us. Yes, if you want to just commentate on anything else.
With that, thank you all very much for listening in and also Kenny, you did not cut out at the end for once. I know! I’m so proud of myself. You didn’t die. You beat Optimus Prime. Kenny’s died several times and we brought him back each time. Aliens killed me and Terminus killed me. But Transformers brought you back.
Alright everyone, thank you very much, goodbye. Thanks, bye.
